upstate trails?

Bring a paper with coordinates. That way your covered. There are tons of people there all the time from my understanding

from the looks of the place when we went it seems there are always people there. I dont know how long it will last, but its a pretty cool area.
 
I hear goulches is pretty rough. I have to drive my truck daily so I dont want to tear anything up. Lol and carver mill, where is that?

gulches has trails for just about any 4x4. I would say over half the stuff that goes to gulches is a mild built dd rig.
 
My tacoma on 33s has been to gulches a few times open/open. As long as you don't go in to anything that's in over your head your good id say. I've got a few love dents from gulches but that's mainly from not being careful of where I was going.
 
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